Subject	I'm not basing my views on the test so much as simple design
Posted by	Janders on December 17, 2002 at 11:54 PM
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In Reply To	That's the point... posted by Only1Z on December 17, 2002 at 11:48 PM
Message	I bought my exhaust( I decided between HKS, Brullen, Stillen, Greddy at the time) be Huge difference in the number and degree of bends in the exhaust. A simple class in physics and pics of the HKS and B&B next too each other will be enough for any logical person to see which will 'perform' better. You can't argue looks because they are personal preference, bu tyou can argue performance, and that is whta I am doing. Name one point where theB&B is better designed performance wise. That's fine if you pick the B&B for looks or pretty welds, but don't try and argue the design performance-wise "You've got a bad turbo"- expert diagnosis by Brice at Alamo Autosports** cactuses
Follow Ups	One more exhaust question, - ownerofz 20:02:57 12/17/02 any of those will do. it's an NA. high flow not required. (n/m) - niXit 20:05:24 12/17/02 get B&B (n/m) - Snoguitar 20:12:48 12/17/02 Top end HP= HKS Hiper, B&B=crap for $$ (n/m) - Janders 20:37:10 12/17/02 2+2 (n/m) - Snoguitar 20:42:21 12/17/02 How's the Hyper sound? - Jackie Chan (Hibernating) 20:50:37 12/17/02 low pitch, V-8ish..on my NA - Janders 20:58:25 12/17/02 I will give it that is does sound better then it looks. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:23:14 12/17/02 You bought your exhaust for looks....sad (n/m) - Janders 21:58:26 12/17/02 Hardly - but believe what you want. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 22:36:01 12/17/02 youve obviously never seen or heard a car with b&b (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 22:59:35 12/17/02 looks and sound= not my concern for an exhaust (n/m) - Janders 23:26:05 12/17/02 power > sound IMHO (n/m) - Janders 23:33:03 12/17/02 So just get straight pipes and be done with it. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:06:15 12/18/02 Hyper is NOT available for the 2+2, STFU if don't know that. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 20:51:19 12/17/02 get your panties outof your ass just cause you paid too muc - Janders 20:56:58 12/17/02 $784 SHIPPED & NEW was too much? Don't blame me if - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:16:08 12/17/02 Good price...more than I spent. - Janders 21:50:42 12/17/02 Nobody said outperforming...B&B is not the best bang for the - Only1Z 22:58:35 12/17/02 It's not the best bang..period. (n/m) - Janders 23:30:48 12/17/02 Thanks for stating the obvious...that's WHAT I JUST SAID - Only1Z 23:37:48 12/17/02 OK, looks=you, performance=me (n/m) - Janders 00:02:06 12/18/02 Straight pipe is cheaper then HKS and flows better. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:07:25 12/18/02 I agree - Janders 19:52:22 12/18/02 What is the big deal? I'd rather have a much better exhaust - Only1Z 19:58:38 12/18/02 I'm calling BS. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 12:37:25 12/19/02 On what? you make me laugh (n/m) - Janders 23:24:12 12/19/02 What he's saying is this... - Only1Z 11:25:44 12/20/02 What I'm saying is this - Janders 12:56:43 12/20/02 Nope...I OWN an HKS exhaust (not a Hiper of course) - Only1Z 14:32:34 12/20/02 You are also comparing materials, aluminized steel vs. - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 23:16:07 12/17/02 I don't worry about rust,and my car isn't a civic - Janders 23:29:48 12/17/02 Damn Bernie, thats a good deal!>>> - Zster (QuickZilver) 23:47:28 12/17/02 No big secret - www.carparts.com - before they got - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:15:48 12/18/02 I must say - Jackie Chan (Hibernating) 19:33:36 12/18/02 Man you got it bad for B&B!!Don't understand your jealousy.. (n/m) - AndrewZ 22:51:48 12/17/02 yes, you got me (n/m) - Janders 23:31:44 12/17/02 greddy SP (n/m) - Zboost 20:44:42 12/17/02 Honestly they are all about the same. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 20:50:17 12/17/02 You've tried any of them on your NA? (n/m) - Janders 20:59:38 12/17/02 I consider ANY exhaust w. similar piping to be +/- the same. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:19:23 12/17/02 straight pipes do not equal 90 mandrel bends - Janders 21:45:14 12/17/02 None of the exhausts he mentioned for the 2+2 have 20 - YugoBernie (NoVA) 21:48:25 12/17/02 The ones mentioned aren't the only choices - Janders 21:55:00 12/17/02 Brullen has 2+2 exhaust with bends at small angles... - not-hrz 22:19:12 12/17/02 I've never seen the bends on a Brullen. (n/m) - Janders 23:35:11 12/17/02 On a 500+ HP TTZ you may see 10 hp difference, on an NA - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 23:14:51 12/17/02 You have to fight for EVERY HP on an NA - Janders 23:27:59 12/17/02 Geez...you don't seem to get it - Only1Z 23:33:34 12/17/02 No..obviously within Reason - Janders 23:41:28 12/17/02 That's the point... - Only1Z 23:48:04 12/17/02 I'm not basing my views on the test so much as simple design - Janders 23:54:55 12/17/02 It's stainless steel and worth the money simply for that (n/m) - Only1Z 23:56:55 12/17/02 We agree! HKS=power, B&B=pretty! yay! - Janders 00:03:49 12/18/02 the pros of SS are more then just looks (n/m) - Snoguitar 03:28:45 12/18/02 Don't waste your breath - Jackie Chan (Hibernating) 19:41:32 12/18/02 Yeah...2 hp is definitely worth driving around with a B&B - Only1Z 20:00:08 12/18/02 Hey, like I said - Jackie Chan (Hibernating) 20:54:09 12/18/02 Well, I don't think that that seems to be the case - Only1Z 21:40:37 12/18/02
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